I guess Obama LIED. Why does that NOT surprise me????

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While this sort of bullshit may impact the Dems during the next couple of elections - the biggest problem is that we will be stuck with these fucked up policies until we're dead. It's like liberal herpes - once they stick ya with it you've got it for life.

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Oh and those tax breaks? The fed's are taking MORE out of our checks rather than less. So much for Obama and his friggin' change.

You just keep on supporting a PROVEN liar - you keep on looking past those dark clouds for the silver lining - but I'm tellin' you it is NOT there.

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Could you please expound on the "health care problem?" If you mean that not everyone has health insurance, not everyone WANTS health care insurance. Most of the illegals in my state simply show up at the emergency room, get whatever they need done, then leave without being charged, or, if they ARE charged, they simply do not pay, and my taxes pay it. I have never met ANYONE who could not get the care they needed. Think about this: someone has an auto accident: do the EMT's ask for insurance before they treat? probably not. Have you ever seen anyone brought into a hospital with an emergency, (like the time my heart just stopped beating, then started back up running real rough) who was refused service? probably not. .
Here is what may happen if Mr. Obama, Reid, and Ms. Pelosi get their way: The American Medical system, which is one of the best, (and unfortunately most expensive in the world due to litigation) is going to become that of a socialist nation. Personally, I do not wish to wait 2 years to see a dentist as they do in England. I do not wish to wait 4 months for an MRI to see if I have cancer, as some do in Canada. I do not wish to have someone I do not know in Washington DC tell me what Doctor I can go to, when.
I do not believe the sky is falling. I believe the uncontrolled democrats in the Government are going to screw up yet another part of America, there is nothing wrong with. Worse thing, they are going to have some Republican help to do it.
Respects

And, IMO, it`s gonna get ugly.

Ever heard the story about the Camel and the Arab?

The camel cries and whines and begs to stick just his nose into the tent to stay warm. Finally the Arab relents and lets the camel stick his nose inside the tent. Pretty soon the camel has pushed his whole head into the tent and so on until the camel's warm and toasty completely in the tent and the Arabs freezing his ass off outside.

When they started sucking us into paying for part of our own coverage it was "only $25/ mo." and that was for the best family coverage available with dental and optical.

I bet you can't even get crappy single coverage for less than $150 month now.

You can't let these sumbitches put an idea on paper. If you don't shoot them down at the get go, watch out in 10 years from now it's gonna be standard operating procedure.

Lewisville

WASHINGTON — Without changes in federal policy, the number of Americans without health insurance will grow from about 45 million this year to about 54 million in 2019, the Congressional Budget Office said today.

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If you're still pissed off about the 2000 elections, GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!
Its over man.
Sharon

Sharon, you say, "It's over?"
I'll tell you what's over.

The World Trade Centers are over, because Bush ignored the warnings.
The lives of 4128 soldiers are over because Bush lied.
The health of 60,000 soldiers is over because Bush lied.

The Fourth Amendment is over, and the Sixth Amendment, and Bush set up
"Free Speech Zones" so I guess the First Amendment is over, too.
The integrity of the Justice Department is ancient history.

Diplomacy died an early death with this president.
Valerie Plame's career as a CIA spy is over and we don't know how many
CIA contacts died because Bush-Cheney wanted to punish the truth tellers.

North Korea's estrangement from making nukes is over.
New Orleans as a livable city - that's probably over.
The meters on Iraq's oil pumps - gone - so Halliburton can steal at will.

Our right to privacy is over - Bush can read our mail, read our e-mails, bug our
phones, check into our bank accounts and the library books we check out.

Bidding on government contracts is over - it all goes to Bush's friends and
they can now sell the military millions of gallons of gasoline for $10 a pop.

Non-partisan Supreme Court judges - that's a thing of the past.
The 911 Commission? That's over and they didn't blame anybody for anything.
How about our friendships with other countries - that's over

Science is over with this religiously-insane president.
He says God told him "Science is bad," so we avoid science at all costs.

The Rule of Law is over - Bush says no laws apply to him since he bungled 9-11.
A ready-to-fight military? That's definitely over.

The health of the 9-11 first responders - gone - thanks to Bush.
A stable economy? Bush destroyed that, too - it's gone for a long time.
Of course, Clinton's surpluses are loooong gone.

Mining safety laws? They were gone soon after Bush took office.
Stem cell research is gone - who needs their health when God is Risen?
Clear skies and healthy forests? Gone, and gone.

Pat Tillman, his life is over - I wonder why Bush covered up his death?
The dream that things will be better for our kids - that's over, too.
Your home being the best retirement plan? That's certainly over.

The Bush name in American politics? That's deader than Francisco Franco.
100,000 White House e-mails? Illegally destroyed - to cover up what?

The separation of Church & State - that's over.
Bush is taking MY TAXES and giving it to superstitious handjobs who support him.

Congressional oversight is dead - (but you can blame the Democrats for that.)
Medal of Freedom integrity is gone, too. Bush gave medals to Tommy Franks,
George Tenet, and Paul Bremer "for all their great work in Iraq."

Our votes being counted - that's gone, too
Oil companies paying taxes? That's gone like T-Rex.
Bush's attendence records in the Nat Guard - over or never existed?

Statue of Liberty? Still there, but meaningless in a torture-is-fun America.

Of course, some things are NOT over, like Bush's war in Iraq, Bush's war
in Afghanistan and the hostility from soon-to-be nuke-happy Iran.
And the torture - that's not over - the torture never stops under this president.
Borrowing from the Saudis to finance tax cuts for the super rich - that's not over.

History has proven several things. Competition improves product\service. Competition keeps down costs. The private sector is far more cost effective on almost everything they manage then anything the Government manages.

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If you're still pissed off about the 2000 elections, GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!
Its over man.
Sharon

Sharon, you say, "It's over?"
I'll tell you what's over.

The World Trade Centers are over, because Bush ignored the warnings.
The lives of 4128 soldiers are over because Bush lied.
The health of 60,000 soldiers is over because Bush lied.

The Fourth Amendment is over, and the Sixth Amendment, and Bush set up
"Free Speech Zones" so I guess the First Amendment is over, too.
The integrity of the Justice Department is ancient history.

Diplomacy died an early death with this president.
Valerie Plame's career as a CIA spy is over and we don't know how many
CIA contacts died because Bush-Cheney wanted to punish the truth tellers.

North Korea's estrangement from making nukes is over.
New Orleans as a livable city - that's probably over.
The meters on Iraq's oil pumps - gone - so Halliburton can steal at will.

Our right to privacy is over - Bush can read our mail, read our e-mails, bug our
phones, check into our bank accounts and the library books we check out.

Bidding on government contracts is over - it all goes to Bush's friends and
they can now sell the military millions of gallons of gasoline for $10 a pop.

Non-partisan Supreme Court judges - that's a thing of the past.
The 911 Commission? That's over and they didn't blame anybody for anything.
How about our friendships with other countries - that's over

Science is over with this religiously-insane president.
He says God told him "Science is bad," so we avoid science at all costs.

The Rule of Law is over - Bush says no laws apply to him since he bungled 9-11.
A ready-to-fight military? That's definitely over.

The health of the 9-11 first responders - gone - thanks to Bush.
A stable economy? Bush destroyed that, too - it's gone for a long time.
Of course, Clinton's surpluses are loooong gone.

Mining safety laws? They were gone soon after Bush took office.
Stem cell research is gone - who needs their health when God is Risen?
Clear skies and healthy forests? Gone, and gone.

Pat Tillman, his life is over - I wonder why Bush covered up his death?
The dream that things will be better for our kids - that's over, too.
Your home being the best retirement plan? That's certainly over.

The Bush name in American politics? That's deader than Francisco Franco.
100,000 White House e-mails? Illegally destroyed - to cover up what?

The separation of Church & State - that's over.
Bush is taking MY TAXES and giving it to superstitious handjobs who support him.

Congressional oversight is dead - (but you can blame the Democrats for that.)
Medal of Freedom integrity is gone, too. Bush gave medals to Tommy Franks,
George Tenet, and Paul Bremer "for all their great work in Iraq."

Our votes being counted - that's gone, too
Oil companies paying taxes? That's gone like T-Rex.
Bush's attendence records in the Nat Guard - over or never existed?

Statue of Liberty? Still there, but meaningless in a torture-is-fun America.

Of course, some things are NOT over, like Bush's war in Iraq, Bush's war
in Afghanistan and the hostility from soon-to-be nuke-happy Iran.
And the torture - that's not over - the torture never stops under this president.
Borrowing from the Saudis to finance tax cuts for the super rich - that's not over.

Now on THAT I agree 100%...my family had two instances where that was involved......

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If you're still pissed off about the 2000 elections, GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!
Its over man.
Sharon

Sharon, you say, "It's over?"
I'll tell you what's over.

The World Trade Centers are over, because Bush ignored the warnings.
The lives of 4128 soldiers are over because Bush lied.
The health of 60,000 soldiers is over because Bush lied.

The Fourth Amendment is over, and the Sixth Amendment, and Bush set up
"Free Speech Zones" so I guess the First Amendment is over, too.
The integrity of the Justice Department is ancient history.

Diplomacy died an early death with this president.
Valerie Plame's career as a CIA spy is over and we don't know how many
CIA contacts died because Bush-Cheney wanted to punish the truth tellers.

North Korea's estrangement from making nukes is over.
New Orleans as a livable city - that's probably over.
The meters on Iraq's oil pumps - gone - so Halliburton can steal at will.

Our right to privacy is over - Bush can read our mail, read our e-mails, bug our
phones, check into our bank accounts and the library books we check out.

Bidding on government contracts is over - it all goes to Bush's friends and
they can now sell the military millions of gallons of gasoline for $10 a pop.

Non-partisan Supreme Court judges - that's a thing of the past.
The 911 Commission? That's over and they didn't blame anybody for anything.
How about our friendships with other countries - that's over

Science is over with this religiously-insane president.
He says God told him "Science is bad," so we avoid science at all costs.

The Rule of Law is over - Bush says no laws apply to him since he bungled 9-11.
A ready-to-fight military? That's definitely over.

The health of the 9-11 first responders - gone - thanks to Bush.
A stable economy? Bush destroyed that, too - it's gone for a long time.
Of course, Clinton's surpluses are loooong gone.

Mining safety laws? They were gone soon after Bush took office.
Stem cell research is gone - who needs their health when God is Risen?
Clear skies and healthy forests? Gone, and gone.

Pat Tillman, his life is over - I wonder why Bush covered up his death?
The dream that things will be better for our kids - that's over, too.
Your home being the best retirement plan? That's certainly over.

The Bush name in American politics? That's deader than Francisco Franco.
100,000 White House e-mails? Illegally destroyed - to cover up what?

The separation of Church & State - that's over.
Bush is taking MY TAXES and giving it to superstitious handjobs who support him.

Congressional oversight is dead - (but you can blame the Democrats for that.)
Medal of Freedom integrity is gone, too. Bush gave medals to Tommy Franks,
George Tenet, and Paul Bremer "for all their great work in Iraq."

Our votes being counted - that's gone, too
Oil companies paying taxes? That's gone like T-Rex.
Bush's attendence records in the Nat Guard - over or never existed?

Statue of Liberty? Still there, but meaningless in a torture-is-fun America.

Of course, some things are NOT over, like Bush's war in Iraq, Bush's war
in Afghanistan and the hostility from soon-to-be nuke-happy Iran.
And the torture - that's not over - the torture never stops under this president.
Borrowing from the Saudis to finance tax cuts for the super rich - that's not over.

Seems simple but apparently it has little liklehood of happening with the lawyers and their lobbyists in DC.

Limit health care for illegals to life threatening situations only.

Offer tax breaks or incentives for established doctors to volunteer one or two days per month in a free health clinic for the indigent. Offer free schooling for doctors willing to provide 2 or 3 years of service in a free health clinic.

Lets figure a way to do this without having to tax the "evil rich" into poverty or retirement.

woody

The issues and solutions given on this forum are probably things the vast majority of taxpayers would agree with. But we have a governemnt that makes it a point to do the disagreeable...

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090317/ap_on_bi_ge/caterpillar_layoffs

If it is a right, should the government set up and administer the system...much like they have done with S.S. and other governmental programs.

The honeymoon is ending and the reality that is the (extreme) left is setting in.
Those that voted for him are getting just what they voted for, change. Dang fools forgot to ask just what the change entailed.

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Hmmm .. Just how many government regulations and guidelines already exist for the medical industry? And you would like more?

I thought you said it was complicated?

Just take medical records as one aspect of the entire problem. Being able to properly and with appropriate security digitize records would vastly improve the system and greatly reduce costs. That is just one example.

The system is complex and finding solutions will not be easy. But I believe there is greater recognition that the issue must be addressed.

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If you're still pissed off about the 2000 elections, GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!
Its over man.
Sharon

Sharon, you say, "It's over?"
I'll tell you what's over.

The World Trade Centers are over, because Bush ignored the warnings.
The lives of 4128 soldiers are over because Bush lied.
The health of 60,000 soldiers is over because Bush lied.

The Fourth Amendment is over, and the Sixth Amendment, and Bush set up
"Free Speech Zones" so I guess the First Amendment is over, too.
The integrity of the Justice Department is ancient history.

Diplomacy died an early death with this president.
Valerie Plame's career as a CIA spy is over and we don't know how many
CIA contacts died because Bush-Cheney wanted to punish the truth tellers.

North Korea's estrangement from making nukes is over.
New Orleans as a livable city - that's probably over.
The meters on Iraq's oil pumps - gone - so Halliburton can steal at will.

Our right to privacy is over - Bush can read our mail, read our e-mails, bug our
phones, check into our bank accounts and the library books we check out.

Bidding on government contracts is over - it all goes to Bush's friends and
they can now sell the military millions of gallons of gasoline for $10 a pop.

Non-partisan Supreme Court judges - that's a thing of the past.
The 911 Commission? That's over and they didn't blame anybody for anything.
How about our friendships with other countries - that's over

Science is over with this religiously-insane president.
He says God told him "Science is bad," so we avoid science at all costs.

The Rule of Law is over - Bush says no laws apply to him since he bungled 9-11.
A ready-to-fight military? That's definitely over.

The health of the 9-11 first responders - gone - thanks to Bush.
A stable economy? Bush destroyed that, too - it's gone for a long time.
Of course, Clinton's surpluses are loooong gone.

Mining safety laws? They were gone soon after Bush took office.
Stem cell research is gone - who needs their health when God is Risen?
Clear skies and healthy forests? Gone, and gone.

Pat Tillman, his life is over - I wonder why Bush covered up his death?
The dream that things will be better for our kids - that's over, too.
Your home being the best retirement plan? That's certainly over.

The Bush name in American politics? That's deader than Francisco Franco.
100,000 White House e-mails? Illegally destroyed - to cover up what?

The separation of Church & State - that's over.
Bush is taking MY TAXES and giving it to superstitious handjobs who support him.

Congressional oversight is dead - (but you can blame the Democrats for that.)
Medal of Freedom integrity is gone, too. Bush gave medals to Tommy Franks,
George Tenet, and Paul Bremer "for all their great work in Iraq."

Our votes being counted - that's gone, too
Oil companies paying taxes? That's gone like T-Rex.
Bush's attendence records in the Nat Guard - over or never existed?

Statue of Liberty? Still there, but meaningless in a torture-is-fun America.

Of course, some things are NOT over, like Bush's war in Iraq, Bush's war
in Afghanistan and the hostility from soon-to-be nuke-happy Iran.
And the torture - that's not over - the torture never stops under this president.
Borrowing from the Saudis to finance tax cuts for the super rich - that's not over.

That is a simple task, for private companies to do. With government not so easy, it's be fubar'd so bad it'd never get straigtened out.

The government doing it would only cost more - it would not create new jobs and the records would probably be screwed up.

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